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Member Section => Tactical Rifle & Carbine => Topic started by: billt on June 29, 2010, 05:47:51 AM
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Does anyone have one of these? The Cabela's by me has them on sale for $1,049.00. I believe it's a new model. It's equipped with a forward assist, covered ejection port, 16" barrel with a "Birdcage" flash suppressor, 6 position M-4 style tele stock. The forend is conventional, not free floated, and it comes in a flat top, optics ready configuration with a slotted gas block that looks like you could mount a retractable front sight on it if you chose to go that route. The gun comes with 2, 19 round steel magazines.
The price on this weapon seems really good, and I just wondered if anyone has one, or a similar model from DPMS, and what you thought of it? Most of the .308 models from makers like Armalite I've seen start around $1,300+. This seems like a nice rifle for the price. Bill T.
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DPMS is a leading name brand, the only caveat I would add would be Magazine price, Armalite and DPMS both use more or less proprietary Mags.
Post a range report ;D
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Bill I think I would go by your favorite local store first and see what they can order it for if they can't compete on the price, go for it. I'm not sure if your going to find a better price even though it is at Cabela's.
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Gunblast.com did a review of a DPMS AR-10 a while back (I'm not sure of the model). Quinn, to no one's surprise, loved it. The groups he was posting were very impressive. As to DPMS itself, I have not had my rifle long, but zero problems so far.
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I've had an DPMS LR-308(Panther) for 3 years now, my very first "black gun". I've run about 1000 rounds through it, mostly some mil. surplus I picked up and I have never had an issue. This is has been my deer rifle of choice since I got it. I have a Nikon 3x9 on it and using Federal Fusion, 165gr factory loads it is sub MOA at 100 yards and MOA at 300. I like this gun so much I picked up a DPMS LoPro in 5.56, they tell me this is how the "disease" starts.
I've heard some people run down DPMS at gun shows... based on my experience they must be nuts. I can't imagine the "Oracle" model wouldn't be a good choice. Is the price good... I don't know as I have not seen one around me. I wouldn't worry too much about the magazines(I almost said clip just to watch the fireworks) being proprietary, I didn't have any problem finding more at a reasonable price(about $30) when I needed one.
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I wouldn't sweat the mags either. You are in a position to buy a dozen or so. That should last your lifetime even if they stopped making them tomorrow.
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Tried to attach porn with the first post but screwed it up.
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Post a range report ;D
I'm not sure about it yet. I really don't need another AR type rifle. But I was there looking at a few Springfield Armory 1911's, and I saw this thing on the rack. They were pretty slow, so the salesman showed it to me, and it did look really nice. DPMS builds a nice rifle. I was impressed with the workmanship and the features for the price. He was saying that DPMS and Bushmaster really over produced their line during the buying spree that resulted after Hussein got elected, and now are offering big discounts to dealers who buy in large numbers. Cabela's bought a ton of them. He said he thinks several models will go even lower in the upcoming months. Much like the real estate boom, people thought it would never end.
I haven't made my mind up yet, I really like the Springfield Trophy Match they had. Cabela's doesn't get too many Springfield 1911's in, except for the Plain Jane A-1 Models. They also had a "Loaded" 1911 Target with a really nice matte black / brushed Stainless finish. Then there was this really nice H&K USP 9 MM................... You know how it goes. ??? Bill T.
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Before you jump billt, have you looked at the Bushmaster ORC in .308?
http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog-308ORC.asp
I also have to dig, but LWRC's R.E.P.R can be had at some deals in the ballpark.
http://www.lwrci.com/p-120-repr.aspx
Oh just get one of each,.....I forgot it was you who posted,.... ;)
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I've read about both of them, but I've yet to see one anywhere. Bill T.
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As I mentioned, the rifle was pretty much an after thought. I was checking out 1911's. I really like the Kimber Stainless II I picked up a couple of months back. A friend of mine has several Springfield 1911 Models, and they are really nice pistols. I guess you could say I've been bitten by the 1911 bug.
They've come a long way since I bought my first Colt Gold Cup way back in 1973. They still are the same basic gun, but they've really improved on the features. There is something to be said about picking up a pistol that fills your hand with solid steel. I love my Glocks, but the 1911 just never seems to go out of style. Bill T.
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I just went by my Cabela's store yesterday and droped $640 bucks. I looked at that rifle but they want $1049 on sale regular $1099 here. My wife would shoot me with it if she found out I bought it along with everything else I brought home. ::) So it stayed on the shelf for another day. ;D
P.S. for any military folks and possible L.E.O.'s out their for today and tomorrow Cabela's is having Hero days, you get employee pricing for just about everything. I got 5000 rounds of federal .22 ammo for $17 a box of 500!
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Have any of you seen the Short Rifle Stock System for the M1A/M14? http://www.ShortRifles.com (http://www.ShortRifles.com)
Dillon put it on the front page of their August mailing
(http://www.glen-l.com/picboards/Blue Press August 2010.jpg)
Now that's something I'd like to have!!! M14 power and reliability in a REALLY nice package!
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I just went by my Cabela's store yesterday and droped $640 bucks. I looked at that rifle but they want $1049 on sale regular $1099 here. My wife would shoot me with it if she found out I bought it along with everything else I brought home. ::) So it stayed on the shelf for another day. ;D
???? Cabela's?
Cabela's doesn't sell the Bulldog 762; the only source for it right now is www.ShortRifles.com (http://www.ShortRifles.com)
It's odd that so many people claim to have seen or even touched the Bulldog 762 at a gun show or store somewhere (and then make unfortunate comments about it) since it's not being sold or even displayed anywhere else than at ShortRifles.com.
I have met Sgt Cabral and even fired the Bulldog on several ocaissions, by the way. Weight is LESS than the standard M14/M1A; balance is phenominal - moves from carry to firing position in less than a heartbeat; effective range remains at 600 yds. for the short version and 1000+ yds for the standard barrel
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???? Cabela's?
Cabela's doesn't sell the Bulldog 762; the only source for it right now is www.ShortRifles.com (http://www.ShortRifles.com)
It's odd that so many people claim to have seen or even touched the Bulldog 762 at a gun show or store somewhere (and then make unfortunate comments about it) since it's not being sold or even displayed anywhere else than at ShortRifles.com.
I have met Sgt Cabral and even fired the Bulldog on several ocaissions, by the way. Weight is LESS than the standard M14/M1A; balance is phenominal - moves from carry to firing position in less than a heartbeat; effective range remains at 600 yds. for the short version and 1000+ yds for the standard barrel
You're on the wrong thread, he was talking about the DPMS Oracle, the rifle this thread is about. He wasn't (and correct me if I'm wrong M25) talking about the rifle you hijacked the thread with even though you started another thread about it as well. He posted the part about Cabela's before you even mentioned the bulldog in this thread. Do you have a personal stake in the 762 Bulldog or something?
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I don't much care for the gun, but I sure as hell like her outfit! Bill T.
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You're on the wrong thread, he was talking about the DPMS Oracle, the rifle this thread is about. He wasn't (and correct me if I'm wrong M25) talking about the rifle you hijacked the thread with even though you started another thread about it as well. He posted the part about Cabela's before you even mentioned the bulldog in this thread. Do you have a personal stake in the 762 Bulldog or something?
Sorry, my computer screen was jumping around yesterday when I posted and somehow my post to the other thread got copied into this one. I'm interested in the Bulldog 'cause some of my spec ops friends are using it "in the sandbox" and are exstatic about it.
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I'd like to try that bulldog setup, but as I think you have to buy the rifle for $1500+ and the bulldog stock for $1275+ I don't think it's going to happen!
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I'd like to try that bulldog setup, but as I think you have to buy the rifle for $1500+ and the bulldog stock for $1275+ I don't think it's going to happen!
Yeah, I think the ticket is to get it into the hands of folks who already own M1A's (or in the case of the U.S. Military, M14's).
Nice conversion if you already own an M1A; I've always wanted one and recently picked up a nice "vintage" one that I plan on converting.
You know, you can get good quality M1A's throught the CMP for about $500, I think.
http://www.thecmp.org (http://www.thecmp.org)
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Yeah, I think the ticket is to get it into the hands of folks who already own M1A's (or in the case of the U.S. Military, M14's).
Nice conversion if you already own an M1A; I've always wanted one and recently picked up a nice "vintage" one that I plan on converting.
You know, you can get good quality M1A's throught the CMP for about $500, I think.
http://www.thecmp.org (http://www.thecmp.org)
Those are M1 Garand's and M1 Carbines still a good deal. Unfortunately they have never sold M14's civilized to the M1A's. Some thing to do with the select fire ability. I know the Springfield M1A's a not capable of being converted to be M14's. The receivers are minutely different.
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One thing to look out for with DPMS guys. My local shop stopped carrying them about a year ago. Reason is DPMS has started using imported parts in their internals. Since then they have been having problems with both the trigger group, and the bolt assemblies. I haven't been able to confirm how bad the problems are. This is what I was told by my local dealer here. However, they haven't steered me wrong in 5 years, so I do trust them. Take it as you will. I'm not saying I wouldn't buy a DPMS, but I would check them out really good before committing major cash for one.