The Down Range Forum
Member Section => Shotguns => Topic started by: Conagher 45 on September 19, 2015, 05:35:52 PM
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Have been considering a Stoeger M3000 to add as a back up for Sporting Clays , also for waterfowl next season too. Will not shed tears if it gets scratched in the boat or blind.
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Benelli's Inertia Drive is hard to beat. I love mine, and have no intention of going back to gas systems. Go For It!
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Going to Cabelas in Hammond, IN. on Veterans day I hope the have some on the shelves to look at,
Just haven't decided on 3" or 3 1/2" chamber yet. I would probably never use 3 1/2's anyway but it would be nice to have the option. The 3 1/2 would be the M3500.
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Which type of system would soak up the most recoil ?
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Which type of system would soak up the most recoil ?
Remington 1100 softest shooting gun on the market and been so since it was released.
the benenlis system is just a fancy recoil operated rotating bolt.
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R 1100 is probably the most common semi auto on the market so that's good to hear. Now does any one know about an M-4 style stock for them ?
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Tom, I believe because of the recoil system the 1100/11-87 uses you wouldn't be able to use an adjustable stock on them,There are a lot of pistol grip style full stocks out there for them.
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Thanks Major.
Sad part is that because I have short arms, and of course compensating for seasonal variations in clothing, it was the adjustable part I was interested in, not the pistol grip so much.
Oh well, there's always the "Youth stock". And it will make me feel younger too ! ;D
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Here's something you could use Tom. You can get the pull down to 13-1/2". http://www.riflestock.com/store/do/product/SGS/01-01-52 If you ever switch to an 870 they have an AR style telescoping stock. I would never give up my Sportsman 12 Auto (M1100) unless I got another auto like maybe the 11-87.
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Thanks Frank, that's better than the youth stock because I can put a few shins back in summer so that it truly fits.
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Thanks Frank, that's better than the youth stock because I can put a few shins back in summer so that it truly fits.
Tom, you could move to north central Alaska and forget about all that shim stuff? ;D ;D
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Or you can wear a shoulder pad in the summer and don't shim it out.
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I like Franks idea better, I would make a BAD South Park character. LOL
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Is there a real advantage for 3 1/2" chamber ?
I mostly shoot 2 3/4" and some 3" shells. The crowd I shoot with has a saying "If you can't knock it down with 3" shells a 3 1/2" won't make up for poor marksmanship or poor judgment.
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Is there a real advantage for 3 1/2" chamber ?
I mostly shoot 2 3/4" and some 3" shells. The crowd I shoot with has a saying "If you can't knock it down with 3" shells a 3 1/2" won't make up for poor marksmanship or poor judgment.
The only real use I've seen for the 3 1/2" is maybe in duck and goose hunting.
My son has an 870 3 1/2" Magnum, but uses 3" for duck hunting and 2 3/4" for everything else. I don't know if he's ever used a 3 1/2" shell. Like you said earlier, it might be nice to have the option.
I agree that shooting ability can't be overcome by firepower.
I don't own any 3 1/2" chambered shotguns, and only have two guns that will use 3"..... but the same rules apply across the board.....by doing so, I would have to give up a round in capacity..... and there's not enough difference in performance (from what I've experienced in my own shooting) to warrant the use of longer shells. I'd rather have eight than seven...even if the seven are slightly more powerful. Everything has an intended use.......in hunting, power may be a slight advantage over capacity....in a SD scenario, a 2 3/4" 12ga will more than fill the requirements, so capacity is everything.
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I have to disagree a little.
I don't see any great advantage in the 3 different sizes, BUT, I would rather have the 31/2 chamber so that I could use any ammo available, regardless of preference.
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The only real reason for the 3-1/2" 12 gauge existing is for shooting steel shot that takes up more room in the shell than an equal weight of lead shot. You need a magnum load of steel shot for waterfowl. 3" or 2-3/4" shells will handle everything else and do so with less recoil.
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3.5" shells kick like a mule... no need for them
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Never tried a shot she'll, but a 31/2 slug will set you back.
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I have to disagree a little.
I don't see any great advantage in the 3 different sizes, BUT, I would rather have the 31/2 chamber so that I could use any ammo available, regardless of preference.
The only problem I have encountered on some older guns is feeding issues when using different lengths. Some guns like one length more than others.
A good friend of mine had a 12 ga Remington with a 3 1/2" chamber and that was all it would shoot without feeding issues. He couldn't reliably shoot the 2 3/4" shells.
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That sucks.