Author Topic: Just 53% Say Capitalism Better Than Socialism (US)  (Read 6436 times)

tombogan03884

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Re: Just 53% Say Capitalism Better Than Socialism (US)
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2009, 10:33:19 AM »
"From an article entitled "Natural Elites, Intellectualls and the State" By Hans-Hermann Hoppe (and no I'm not making that up) in which our author goes on to argue for a natural aristocracy, castigates democracy and implies our problems lie in our inability to recognize our betters. It is what it is, but it ain't classical liberalism (liberarianism) and it sure ain't American. There is a lot of this stuff in the Mises Institute."

A few questions and comments.
1) What is wrong with letting accomplishment sort the haves from the have nots ? I'm not familiar with the term "social Darwinism" but taking it at face value I understand it meaning that societies and customs that are best adapted to survival do survival, while the impractical, ill adapted are allowed to fall by the wayside.  Reward success - punish failure.
2) What is wrong with the THEORY of eugenics ? I KNOW this is not PC and will offend some, but I ask that EMOTION be put aside and consider this, then answer honestly. ( I grant in advance that the problems arise from WHO makes the decisions and sets criteria) Just because some lump of flesh maintains a pulse and MIGHT be potty trained, does that being automaticly have a "right" to be a life long, non productive drain on the limited resources of the community, a "right" to breed equally resource draining progeny ?  Oliver Wendall Holmes favored eugenic policies.
3)The idea of the "Natural aristocracy was understood and accepted by the Founding Fathers, it was the only type of aristocracy they would accept. for one example look at the Adams family, 3 generations of noted statesmen, although Charles fell out of favor and lost the Family's ascendant position, he was still a noted historian. Other examples could include the DuPont's, while the bloodline has fallen into disrepute in recent generations they also were "elite through accomplishment". The family fortune was started by supplying gun powder for the Revolution and the War of 1812 and continued to grow through Napalm sales during Vietnam and more recently the development of Kevlar, there are the Rockerfellers, John D more or less started the American oil industry and whether you agree with them or not his descendants continue to influence American affairs.
In more "primitive" cultures the best warriors and hunters got the best pick of wives for the purpose of breeding more great warriors and hunters, while they lacked the concept of genetics they understood from animal husbandry that desirable traits could be reinforced and strengthened by selective breeding, while the occurrence of less desirable traits could be lessened by the same means, thats why the modern horse is 3 - 5 times larger than the equids encountered by early Steppe dwellers.
Reward success, Joe Kennedy was known to be the biggest crook on Wall Street in his day, but no one could catch him. So when the SEC was formed he was the first man named to head it.
By rejecting this principles we end up with a guy who got CAUGHT cheating on his taxes as Treasury Secretary, that is rewarding failure and seems self defeating.

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Re: Just 53% Say Capitalism Better Than Socialism (US)
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2009, 05:18:38 AM »
do you comprende: really stupid people. or those that feed off of 'social' programs.
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