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Immigration overhaul bill unveiled in House
« on: December 16, 2009, 07:59:26 AM »
The legislation, which includes a path to legalization, is met with criticism from conservatives and liberals.

By Antonio Olivo and Teresa Watanabe

December 16, 2009



Reporting from Los Angeles and Chicago - Raising the curtain on a new round of debate over immigration reform, a group of Democratic congressional lawmakers introduced a comprehensive bill Tuesday that, among other provisions, would offer a path to legalization for the country's estimated 12 million illegal immigrants.

The bill, championed by Rep. Luis V. Gutierrez (D-Ill.), was decidedly more pro-immigrant than the bipartisan legislation House lawmakers debated two years ago. And the latest version drew immediate fire from the left as well as the right. Groups opposed to legalization derided it as a form of amnesty, and more-liberal factions complained that it relied too heavily on enforcement.

In Los Angeles, immigration activists hailed the measure at a news conference before heading to local lawmakers' offices -- aboard a yellow school bus festooned with banners -- to urge their support.

"This is a big day for us," said Jorge-Mario Cabrera of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles. "Our community has been awaiting this bill for a long time."

Cabrera called Gutierrez's bill the most generous in more than two decades, citing provisions that would allow migrants to legalize their status without returning to their home countries, prohibit separation of families, offer more visas for workers and relatives, and eliminate local enforcement of federal immigration law.

The bill also calls for beefing up border security and overhauling the federal detention system for jailed immigrants to provide for better medical treatment and other services.

But Ted Hilton, an anti-illegal-immigration activist in San Diego, said that with so many Americans out of work, efforts to legalize millions of immigrants would face a certain backlash.

"When the last American comes off of unemployment, then let's have a conversation about whether we need additional immigrants," Hilton said, adding that he hoped to qualify a California ballot initiative next year to deny several public services to illegal immigrants.

In Washington, Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) -- who has been Gutierrez's partner in backing previous immigration bills -- issued a statement Tuesday saying he was "disappointed" by the latest legislation. "In order for immigration reform to be effective, it needs to be comprehensive," he said. "Any bill without a temporary worker program is simply not comprehensive."

Gutierrez, one of 87 House Democrats sponsoring the 700-page bill, said it was based on months of discussions with community organizations, unions and other groups around the country in hopes of gaining enough momentum to get reforms passed.

"Now, there's a bill with a following," Gutierrez said.

However, any serious consideration seems months away.

A spokesman for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) said that although Pelosi supported the bill, she wanted the Senate to act first on the issue.

President Obama has said that he anticipated taking up the immigration issue after the healthcare debate is over and Congress finishes work on energy reforms and regulating financial markets -- potentially pushing the debate close to the midterm election in November.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-immigration-bill16-2009dec16,0,149598.story
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Re: Immigration overhaul bill unveiled in House
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2009, 11:43:28 AM »

"When the last American comes off of unemployment, then let's have a conversation about whether we need additional immigrants," Hilton said, adding that he hoped to qualify a California ballot initiative next year to deny several public services to illegal immigrants.


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Re: Immigration overhaul bill unveiled in House
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2009, 11:48:32 AM »
All illegal aliens should be deported, and their employers should go to jail,
 no matter what government agencies they run.

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Re: Immigration overhaul bill unveiled in House
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2009, 12:48:05 PM »
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In Los Angeles, immigration activists hailed the measure at a news conference before heading to local lawmakers' offices -- aboard a yellow school bus festooned with banners -- to urge their support.


Too bad ICE wasn't there to scoop the bastards up as they got off the bus!!  ;D
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Re: Immigration overhaul bill unveiled in House
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2009, 12:49:05 PM »
All illegal aliens should be deported, and their employers should go to jail,
 no matter what government agencies they run.


Maybe we could deport the alien-in-chief and make him come back into the country legally.   ;D
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Re: Immigration overhaul bill unveiled in House
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2009, 12:53:17 PM »

Maybe we could deport the alien-in-chief and make him come back into the country legally.   ;D

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Re: Immigration overhaul bill unveiled in House
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2009, 07:48:32 PM »
with unemployment a record high and Americans suffering the idiots in Congress that support this should be hung, we owe them nothing but we should take of our own. Billions of dolllars  would be saved :'( every year if we sent them home on a one way ticket and no return.
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Re: Immigration overhaul bill unveiled in House
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2009, 09:36:28 PM »
You have to be kidding what about people like me that are LEGAL immigrants who pay heaps of money and time jumping thru the hoops that INS put us thru.

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Re: Immigration overhaul bill unveiled in House
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2009, 11:15:26 PM »
You have to be kidding what about people like me that are LEGAL immigrants who pay heaps of money and time jumping thru the hoops that INS put us thru.
Welcome aboard, and welcome home to America AussieRogue! You make my point. I'm not anti-immigrant, nor am I anti-latino, nor am I racist. I don't care if you're from Nicaragua, Nigeria or Norway. I just want it to be done the right way. A soveriegn nation, particularly one built on ideas not race or religion, like ours should get to set the rules about who comes. Embrace our values, learn our language and obey our laws and you're welcome. Otherwise, piss off. I've said before I don't blame the illegals as much as those who lure them here to exploit them and lower the wages of legal workers. Still, why have immigration laws a "Border" Patrol or for that matter an army, if we just let anyone walk in and set up shop? Too much is enough. Amnesty should be the Dream Act, and a 90 day notice to turn yourself in, settle your affairs and clear out on our dime. Beyond that, a bus ticket home. If you want to be a part of a country ,rule one is agree to its soveriegnty and obey its laws. Break them and out you get. This seems fair. When did breaking immigration laws count as not breaking the law?
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Re: Immigration overhaul bill unveiled in House
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2009, 11:48:12 PM »
You have to be kidding what about people like me that are LEGAL immigrants who pay heaps of money and time jumping thru the hoops that INS put us thru.

My ex lead man's wife is Thai, She's been jumping through the hoops since before I met him and I don't think she is a citizen YET.
This kind of crap is even more of a slap to folks like you and her than to us who were born here. It's like the Government is catching up on all the crapping on you they missed before you came here. To them you are just a dumb sap.
We have had a life time of these pompous a$$es pi$$ing on our heads and telling us it's raining.
That's why I advocate dragging them into the street and hanging all 535 of them.

 

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