Full Auto From A Semi Legally

[PegLeg45]

If its legal, great. I'd just rather someone else do the beta testing on that issue. Honestly though, if I could get a FA AR I couldn't afford to feed it.
FQ13

Same here on the food bill for the thing.  

It's like Tom mentioned on the actuators........ those trigger cranking units that are out there for Mini-14's and 10/22's................ They attach externally and simply work the trigger faster than your finger can.

[2HOW]

Its a variation of the ole "bump" firing .

[billt]

Its a variation of the ole "bump" firing .

This looks to be a lot more controllable and less dangerous.  Bill T.

[nupe]

In a nutshell, FQ, to answer your question on legality: It is legal under 'current' standards because the actuator is controlled by the shooter and is not a component of the internal working mechanism of the trigger group. The internal trigger control is not affected like it would be with a sear disconnect altering mechanism.
This unit seems to control the rate of fire based on external manipulation of the trigger. It appears to use the recoil inertia of the rifle to press the trigger faster than the shooter would normally be able to do with just a finger. In the video note the stock sliding back and forth with recoil as the trigger finger rests against the sliding unit. (this is all just supposition based on what I saw in the video).

Even though it doesn't effect the internal firing mechanism it can still be considered illegal.  There have been people that have gotten nailed by ATF for "shoe string machine guns."  Basically they took their shoe stirngs and tied them just right to the triger, so that the string would strech just far enough forward for the sear to reset before it would snap back and trip the sear again.

[PegLeg45]

Even though it doesn't effect the internal firing mechanism it can still be considered illegal.  There have been people that have gotten nailed by ATF for "shoe string machine guns."  Basically they took their shoe stirngs and tied them just right to the triger, so that the string would strech just far enough forward for the sear to reset before it would snap back and trip the sear again.

You are absolutely correct. There probably have been plenty of backyard gunsmiths that have made illegal firing mechanisms from shoestrings to slide-firing levers. This system may eventually end up on the banned list also, but according to the website, they have ATF approval letters that go with each rifle.....for now.

This is one of those times where the saying, "Buyer Beware" comes into play big time....and as always, YMMV.

FWIW.

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[Big Frank]

Someone made a spring loaded stock for the 10/22 that worked the same way. ATF approved it then outlawed it. I expect the same thing here.

[PegLeg45]

Someone made a spring loaded stock for the 10/22 that worked the same way. ATF approved it then outlawed it. I expect the same thing here.

Most likely right after some nut-case goes ape-sh!t and shoots up a crowd with one....or some bozo kills someone at a range.

[TAB]

If your luck is like mine.

you will order it, and during shiping it will become illegal.

lol

[2HOW]

They also market that windup thingy on the trigger, turn it and the trigger goes back and forth. But this is really the best Ive seen. If its legal, I may buy another poodle shooter, just for in case I need it.

[PegLeg45]

They also market that windup thingy on the trigger, turn it and the trigger goes back and forth. But this is really the best Ive seen. If its legal, I may buy another poodle shooter, just for in case I need it.

A friend of mine had one of those trigger crank devices on a Mini-14. It actually worked pretty good as for rate of fire...it could fire much faster than a regular finger could pull the trigger.....but it was way too awkward to be beneficial...IMHO.