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Re: Operation Fast & Furious
« Reply #70 on: October 04, 2011, 09:05:49 PM »
Saw this on the news last night. The weasles have already started the "I get so many memos" bullshit. 

I hope they hang the lying prick(s).

Holder's PR people said he "misunderstood" the question during the hearings. Can you say "What a c...k?"

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Re: Operation Fast & Furious
« Reply #71 on: October 04, 2011, 09:28:15 PM »
New spin is that it happened under Bush as well.  Operation wide receiver.  It was supposedly putting RFI of some sort in the guns or cases but the RFI tracking failed to work.
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Re: Operation Fast & Furious
« Reply #72 on: October 04, 2011, 09:59:46 PM »
Holder's PR people said he "misunderstood" the question during the hearings. Can you say "What a c...k?"

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Would that defense hold up for any of us?

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Re: Operation Fast & Furious
« Reply #73 on: October 04, 2011, 11:21:57 PM »
Would that defense hold up for any of us?

No better than for Nixon, But We aren't dems, they're special.
That's why Wrangel has been in front of the ethics committee so many times with no punishment.
If this were a Republican  the Impeachment hearings would already be in session.

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Re: Operation Fast & Furious
« Reply #74 on: October 05, 2011, 11:58:34 AM »
Eric Holder should be fired immediately, but I'm not holding my breath. Obama should be impeached and removed from office. This guy has no respect for the rule of law or the american people much less, the constitution!

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Re: Operation Fast & Furious
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Re: Operation Fast & Furious
« Reply #75 on: October 05, 2011, 10:52:01 PM »
That's why Wrangel has been in front of the ethics committee so many times with no punishment.

Rangel did get a nasty themed note put in his file.......I bet that scared the crap out of him.  ::)
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Re: Operation Fast & Furious
« Reply #76 on: October 06, 2011, 12:06:22 AM »
This is why I don't much care about a politicians Veteran status, Wrangel, like Murtha, is a veteran who is a POS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_B._Rangel#2008.E2.80.932010:_Ethics_issues_and_censure

n late November 1950, after the Chinese intervention into the war, this unit was caught up in heavy fighting in North Korea as part of the U.N. forces retreat from the Yalu River. In the Battle of Kunu-ri, the 2nd Infantry was assigned to hold a road position near Kunu-ri while the rest of the Eighth Army retreated to Sunchon, 21 miles further south. On the night of November 29, the 2nd Infantry was attacked by gradually encircling forces of the Chinese Army, who set up a fireblock to cut off any U.S. retreat. The eerie blare of Chinese night-fighting bugle calls and communication flares[15] piercing the freezing air led to what Rangel later described as a "waking nightmare, scene by scene, and we couldn't see any possible way out of the situation."[16] During the day of November 30, the order came to withdraw the 2nd Infantry in phases, but the 503rd Artillery Battalion was sixth of eight in the order and could not get out in daylight when air cover was possible.[17]

On the night of November 30, Rangel was part of a retreating vehicle column that was trapped and attacked by Chinese forces.[11][18] In the subzero cold, Rangel was injured in the back by shrapnel from a Chinese shell.[19] He later wrote that the blast threw him into a ditch and caused him to pray fervently to Jesus.[18] Up and down the line of the retreat, unit cohesion disappeared under attack and officers lost contact with their men.[20] There was screaming and moaning around him and some U.S. soldiers were being taken prisoner,[10] but despite feeling overwhelming fear Rangel resolved to try and escape over an imposing mountain: "From the rim of that gully it just looked like everything had to be better on the other side of that damn mountain."[18]

Others nearby looked to Rangel, who though only a private first class had a reputation for leadership in the unit and had gained the nickname "Sarge".[18] Rangel led some 40 men from his unit over the mountain during the night and out of the Chinese encirclement.[10] Other groups were trying to do the same, but some men dropped from the severe conditions or got lost and were never heard from again.[21][22] By midday on December 1, U.S. aircraft were dropping supplies and directions to Rangel's group and others, and had a raft ready to take them across the Taedong River; groups from the 503rd Artillery reached Sunchon that afternoon.[21][23] Overall, no part of the 2nd Infantry suffered as many casualties as the artillery;[24] it tried to save, but eventually lost, all its guns,[25] and nearly half of the battalion was killed in the overall battle.[26]

Rangel was treated first at a field hospital, then moved to a general hospital well behind the lines in South Korea where he recuperated.[27] He eventually returned to regular duty, then was rotated back to the U.S. in July 1951.[27]

Rangel was awarded a Purple Heart for his wounds, the Bronze Star with Valor for his actions in the face of death, and three battle stars.[28] His Army unit was awarded the Presidential Unit Citation[nb 2] and the Republic of Korea Presidential Unit Citation.[28] In 2000, Rangel reflected to CBS News that

    "Since Kunu Ri – and I mean it with all my heart, I have never, never had a bad day."[11]

The part about his ethics violations is considerably longer.

2008–2010: Ethics issues and censure
[edit] Letterhead use and Rangel Center fundraising

In July 2008, The Washington Post reported that Rangel was soliciting donations to the Charles B. Rangel Center for Public Service at City College of New York from corporations with business interests before his Ways and Means Committee, and was doing so using Congressional letterhead.[109] Such companies and individuals included AIG, Donald Trump, and Nabors Industries, and by this time Rangel's efforts had helped raise $12 million of the $30 million goal for the center.[109] Government watchdog groups and ethics experts criticized Rangel's actions, with the dean of the George Washington University Graduate School of Political Management saying Rangel "has crossed the line".[109]

Rangel denied any wrongdoing and asked the U.S. House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct, commonly known as the House Ethics Committee, to determine if his use of Congressional letterhead while arranging meetings to solicit contributions for the Center had violated any House rules.[99] House Speaker Nancy Pelosi agreed to Rangel's request.[99]
[edit] Renting Harlem apartments at below-market rates

The New York Times reported in July 2008 that Rangel rents four apartments at below-market rates in the Lenox Terrace complex in Harlem. It reported that Rangel paid $3,894 monthly for all four apartments in 2007. In contrast, the landlord's going rate for similar apartments in the building was as high as $8,125 monthly. Three adjacent apartments were combined to create his 2,500-square-foot (230 m2) home. A fourth unit is used as a campaign office, which violates city and state regulations that require rent-stabilized apartments to be used as a primary residence. Rangel received thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from one of the landlord’s owners, according to the paper. Rangel said his rent does not affect his representation of his constituents.[61]

Congressional ethics experts said the difference in rent between what Rangel was paying and market rates, an estimated $30,000 per year, could be construed as a gift, exceeding the $100 House of Representatives gift limit.[61] In late July, the House voted 254–138 to table a resolution by Republican Minority Leader John Boehner that would have censured Rangel for having "dishonored himself and brought discredit to the House", by occupying the four apartments.[110]
[edit] House parking garage

A September 2008 New York Post article reported that Rangel had been using a House parking garage as free storage space for his Mercedes-Benz for years, in apparent violation of Congressional rules. Under IRS regulations, free parking (here, worth $290 a month) is considered imputed income, and must be declared on tax returns.[111] In July 2010 the House Ethics Committee ruled that Rangel had committed no violation, since in practice the parking policy was only applied to Congressional staff and not to members themselves.[112]
[edit] Taxes on Dominican villa rental income

Rangel was accused of failing to report income from his rental of a beachside villa he owns in Punta Cana in the Dominican Republic. A three-bedroom, three-bath unit, it has rented out for as much as $1,100 per night in the busiest tourist season.[113]

Labor lawyer Theodore Kheel, a principal investor in the resort development company and frequent campaign contributor to Rangel, had encouraged him to purchase the villa. Rangel purchased it in 1988 for $82,750. He financed $53,737.50 of the purchase price for seven years at an interest rate of 10.5%, but was one of several early investors whose interest payments were waived in 1990.[114]

In September 2008, Rangel's attorney, Lanny Davis, disclosed that Rangel had failed to report on his tax returns or in congressional disclosure forms $75,000 in income he had received for renting his Dominican villa. That month, Rangel paid $10,800 to cover his liability for the related back taxes.[115][116] He had owed back taxes for at least three years. The Ways and Means Committee writes the U.S. tax code, and as such his failure to pay taxes himself led to heavy criticism.[116]

A September 14, 2008, New York Times editorial called for Rangel to step down temporarily from his chairmanship of the Ways and Means Committee while his ethical problems were investigated.[117]

On September 24, 2008, the House Ethics Committee announced that it would investigate whether Rangel had violated its code of conduct or any law or other regulation related to his performance of his duties.[118] On November 23, 2008, The New York Post reported that Rangel took a "homestead" tax break on his Washington, DC, house for years, while simultaneously occupying multiple New York City rent-stabilized apartments, "possibly violating laws and regulations in both cases."[119] In January 2009, Republican Representative John R. Carter introduced the Rangel Rule Act of 2009 (H.R. 735), a tongue-in-cheek proposal that would have allowed all taxpayers to not pay penalties and interest on back taxes, in reference to Rangel not yet having paid his.[120]
[edit] Defense of tax shelter
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Rangel receives book written by US Consul General Gregory Slayton, in Bermuda in 2009

In November 2008, following reports by The New York Times, Republican Congressmen asked the House Ethics Committee to look into Rangel's defense of a tax shelter approved by his Ways and Means Committee. One of the four companies that benefited from the loophole was Nabors Industries, which opened headquarters in Bermuda as a foreign corporation.[121] Under the loophole, Nabors receives tens of millions of dollars in tax breaks. In 2004, Rangel had led opposition to the tax breaks.[121] Nabors donated $1 million in 2006, and $100,000 later, to the City College of New York school named after Rangel.

Its CEO said the donations were unrelated to Rangel's February 2007 promise to oppose closing the loophole.[121] He denied there was any quid pro quo, and called the article about it "malarkey".[122] Rangel said The New York Times had ignored facts and explanations, and denied the charges.[121][123][124] The House Ethics Committee voted in December 2008, to expand its investigation of Rangel to the matter.[125] Eventually the Ethics Committee would not make a specific charge over this matter but did include it in the supporting documentation for the overall charge that Rangel had solicited Rangel Center donations from those with business before his committee.[126]
[edit] Unreported assets and income

On September 15, 2008, it was disclosed that: a) Rangel had omitted from his financial reports details regarding his sale of a Washington, DC home; b) discrepancies existed in the values he listed for a property he owns in Sunny Isles, Florida (varying from $50,000 to $500,000); and c) inconsistencies appeared in his investment fund reporting. He apologized, saying "I owed my colleagues and the public adherence to a higher standard of care, not only as a member of Congress, but even more as the chair of the House Ways and Means Committee." Republicans called for his removal as chair. Rangel said there was no justification for that, as the mistakes were errors of omission, that would not justify loss of his position.[127]

In August 2009, Rangel amended his 2007 financial disclosure form to report more than $500,000 in previously unreported assets and income. That doubled his reported net worth. Unreported assets included a federal credit union checking account of between $250,000 and $500,000, several investment accounts, stock in Yum! Brands and PepsiCo, and property in Glassboro, New Jersey. Rangel also had not paid property taxes on two of his New Jersey properties, which he was required by law to do.

The ethics issues led by December 2008 to some loss of standing for Rangel, to Republicans trying to tie him to all Democrats, and to some Democrats privately saying it would be best if Rangel stepped down from his Ways and Means post.[128] In late 2008 and again in September 2009, the government watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington named Rangel one of the 15 most corrupt members of Congress.[129] Media pieces compared Rangel's woes with those of ethically challenged past Ways and Means chairs Wilbur Mills and Dan Rostenkowski.[75] Pelosi, a long-time friend of Rangel's, withheld any possible action against Rangel pending the House Ethics Committee report.[73] Rangel evinced impatience with that body, saying "I don't have a complaint now, except that it's taking too goddamn long to review this thing and report back."[75] On September 3, 2009, The Washington Post called on Rangel to resign his chairmanship of the House Ways and Means Committee, given the ethical issues that had surfaced. Another Republican resolution was put forth to force him out of his chairmanship. However, Rangel stayed in place and mostly maintained his role in House leadership and policy discussions,[73] including the Obama health care reform plan[75] (opposition to which, he suggested, was partly due to racial prejudice against President Obama).[130] Nevertheless, his influence was diminished by the questions surrounding him.[75]
[edit] Caribbean trips

In May 2009, the non-profit National Legal and Policy Center filed an ethics complaint against Rangel and other members of Congress for trips, taken in 2007 and 2008 to Caribbean islands. The trips had been sponsored by Carib News Foundation, a New York non-profit funded by corporations with interests before Congress and the Ways and Means Committee.[131] This, combined with the duration of the trips, seemed to violate House rules. The Ethics Committee agreed the following month to investigate the matter.[132]

On February 26, 2010, the Ethics Committee issued its report.[133] It determined that Rangel had violated House gift rules, by accepting reimbursement for his travel to the conferences.[134] It found that he had not known of the contributions, but concluded that he was still responsible for them and was required to repay their cost.[134] Five other members were cleared of having violated rules, but were also required to repay their trips.[134] Rangel disagreed with the committee's finding, saying:

    Because they were my staff members who knew, one of whom has been discharged, [the committee has decided] that I should have known. Common sense dictates that members of Congress should not be held responsible for what could be the wrongdoing, or mistakes, or errors of staff.[131]

Pelosi said she would not take any action against Rangel pending further committee findings, as his staff had been more at fault and he had not broken any law.[131] The Ethics Committee continued to investigate the charges against Rangel relating to obtaining rent-stabilized apartments, fundraising, and failure to disclose rental income from his Dominican villa.[131]
[edit] Stepping aside as House Ways and Means Chair

After a February 2010 House Ethics Committee report criticizing him for taking sponsored Caribbean trips, the White House backed off its prior support of Rangel somewhat, and within days 14 Democratic members of Congress publicly called on Rangel to step aside as Ways and Means chair.[135][136] Other Democrats were concerned that Rangel would impede Democrats' efforts to maintain their majority in the 2010 House elections, but did not say anything publicly out of respect and personal affection for Rangel.[135]

Momentum quickly built against Rangel, with 30 or more Democrats planning to oppose his continued chairmanship of the Ways and Means Committee, in a full House vote being pushed by Republicans.[137][138] Democrat Paul Hodes of New Hampshire noted:

    I think we're in a zero-tolerance atmosphere, and I think ... Washington should be held to the highest ethical standards. I have the greatest admiration for Mr. Rangel's service to this country. He's been a great public servant. This is very, very unfortunate, but I think it's necessary.[137]

On March 3, 2010, Rangel said he would take a leave of absence as chair, pending issuance of the Ethics Committee's report.[139] Pelosi granted his request, but whether such a leave was possible was unclear and the House Speaker pro Tempore said that a resignation had taken place and that Rangel was no longer chair.[1][139] Observers opined that it was unlikely that Rangel would ever be able to regain the position.[138][139] Several Democrats said they would return or donate to charity campaign contributions given to them by Rangel.[138] Representative Sander M. Levin of Michigan took over as acting chair.[140]
[edit] House ethics committee charges

On July 22, 2010, a bipartisan, four-member investigative subcommittee of the House Ethics Committee indicated it had "substantial reason to believe" that Rangel had violated a range of ethics rules relating to the other charges.[141] The matter was referred to another, newly created, special subcommittee to rule on the findings.[141][142]

Rangel negotiated with the Ethics Committee. But participants in the talks characterized him as unwilling to admit wrongdoing in connection with several of the charges, and anxious about preserving his legacy. No settlement was reached.[143]

On July 29, 2010, Rangel was charged by the committee with 13 counts of violating House rules and federal laws.[144] Rangel's lawyers continued to insist that he had not intentionally violated any law or regulation, had not handed out political favors, and had not misused his office for personal financial gain.[144] Rangel somberly said only this on the day the charges were announced:

    Sixty years ago, I survived a Chinese attack in North Korea. And as a result I wrote a book that, having survived that, that I haven't had a bad day since. Today I have to reassess that.[145]

[edit] Re-election campaign of 2010

By 2010, Rangel's continuing difficulties, together with the death a few months prior of Percy Sutton and the scandal around, and abandoned election campaign of, Governor David Paterson (Basil Paterson's son), marked the end of the era of Harlem's "Gang of Four".[60][146]

Rangel faced several Democratic primary challengers for his seat in 2010: Vincent Morgan, whose grassroots campaign bore many resemblances to Rangel's own against the scandal-plagued Adam Clayton Powell, Jr., in 1970;[147] Adam Clayton Powell IV, who had previously challenged Rangel in 1994; labor activist and past primary candidate for statewide office Jonathan Tasini; and former Obama campaign official Joyce Johnson.[46][141] While Rangel's fund-raising was down from previous years, and he had paid nearly $2 million in legal fees, he still had far more cash available for the campaign than any of his challengers.[46][141]

On September 14, 2010, Rangel prevailed in the primary election, gaining 51 percent of the vote against Powell's 23 percent and lesser amounts for the other contenders.[148] He then won the November 2, 2010, general election easily, garnering 80 percent of the vote against Republican Michel Faulkner's 10 percent and smaller amounts for third-party candidates.[149]
[edit] House ethics trial and censure

On November 15, 2010, Rangel's formal ethics trial began.[150] He walked out of the hearing at the start, saying that he was unable to afford representation after having paid his previous lawyers over $2 million, and arguing unsuccessfully that the proceeding should be delayed until he could arrange for a legal defense fund.[150]

The following day, Rangel was found guilty on 11 of the 12 charges against him by the adjudicatory subcommittee of the House Ethics Committee (2 of the original 13 charges having been combined).[151][152] Two of the charges were focused on his actions with regards to soliciting funds and donations for the Rangel Center from those with business before the Ways and Means Committee; four were for improper use of Congressional letterhead and other House resources in those solicitations; one was for submitting incomplete and inaccurate financial disclosure statements; one was for using one of his Harlem apartments as an office when he had Congressional dealings with the landlord; one was for failing to pay taxes on his Dominican villa; and two reiterated these charges in describing general violations of House rules.[153]

Two days later, a near-tears Rangel pleaded for "fairness and mercy", but to no avail;[154] the full Committee voted 9–1 to recommend that the full House approve a sanction of censure upon Rangel.[155] The committee stated that "Public office is a public trust [and Rangel] violated that trust."[154] Censure is the strongest penalty the House can impose short of outright expulsion from Congress.[155] The Committee also said that Rangel should make restitution for any unpaid taxes.[155]

Supporters of Rangel argued that by comparison with previous cases, a reprimand would be a more fitting punishment for Rangel's trangressions than censure.[156] Rangel repeatedly insisted, as he had all along, that nothing he had done was with the aim of enriching himself.[157] It was to no avail. On December 2, 2010, a motion was made in the full House to censure Rangel. Ethics committee chair Zoe Lofgren emphasized that it was Rangel's "accumulation of actions" that warranted the stiffer penalty, and said that the treatment of Rangel should set a new precedent, not follow old ones.[158] A motion to amend the resolution in favor of reprimand was voted down 267–146.[157] The House of Representatives then voted 333–79 to censure Rangel.[158] Per custom, Rangel went to the well of the House to hear Speaker Pelosi solemnly read the formal measure of censure.[159] It had been 27 years since the last such measure and Rangel was only the 23rd House member to be censured.[159] Rangel asked to speak and said, "I know in my heart I am not going to be judged by this Congress. I’ll be judged by my life in its entirety."[157]

You need to read the whole article, this guy has has been a big part of creating todays problems.

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Re: Operation Fast & Furious
« Reply #77 on: October 06, 2011, 08:50:54 AM »
The guys over at JPFO are running the story.  Their thinking is that it is not likely to lead to any improvement for 2A supporters.

Here is an excerpt and a link.

Rumors are surfacing regarding the U.S. Department of Justice’s plans to abolish the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (BATFE). The blood soaked debacle of BATFE’s "Operation Fast and Furious", the blatantly felonious scheme of running guns to murderous Mexican drug cartels, may have put the nail in the coffin for what is almost certainly America’s most sordid federal agency.

http://jpfo.org/kirby/kirby-frying-pan.htm
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Re: Operation Fast & Furious
« Reply #78 on: October 06, 2011, 01:07:45 PM »
 They have certainly racked up a record, to include Waco, Ruby Ridge, and now Fast and Furious. They started out as an incredibly corrupt bunch of "Revenuers" in moonshine country.

 I understand that if no other law enforcement organization would have you ,you could always get a job with the BATF. THe bottom of the barrel.

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Re: Operation Fast & Furious
« Reply #79 on: October 06, 2011, 01:08:20 PM »
I saw some mention of this some where else as well.
I won't get my hopes up, it didn't happen after Ruby Ridge where they murdered a 16 year old a mother and a dog, and wounded a bystander in order to get a guy less than a year in jail for being entrapped.
It didn't happen after they incinerated 26 men women and children who hadn't broken any laws in Waco.
I doubt it will happen now.

 

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