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Someone has started a petition to the POTUS to allow Louisiana to secede peacefully from the union.

Good.  I'll sign it.
4 (36.4%)
I'll sign it and start a petition for my state.
7 (63.6%)
Go back home and be a good boy.
0 (0%)
I am a coward, I would never sign anything like that.
0 (0%)
It is divisive.
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 10


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fightingquaker13

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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2012, 07:44:54 PM »
I fear that they'll start one for Florida. It'll take one signature before a unaimous bill from Congress will grant the request. Followed by "And STAY out". ;D

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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2012, 08:26:59 PM »
I fear that they'll start one for Florida. It'll take one signature before a unaimous bill from Congress will grant the request. Followed by "And STAY out". ;D

You need to pay more attention to what you read.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/secission-petitions-filed-20-states-190210006.html

States with citizens filing include Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas. Oddly, folks from Georgia have filed twice.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/white-house-may-respond-texas-secession-petition-212328772--election.html;_ylt=Aq39.F6ApPWH0kjt5Mb0w5is0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNsbTRxZWNiBG1pdANUb3BTdG9yeSBGUARwa2cDYmE0MmJiODctMGFkNi0zZmM2LTg0YmYtY2JkZDI0ZmYyMjBhBHBvcwM1BHNlYwN0b3Bfc3RvcnkEdmVyA2IwNjhkYzMyLTJkMWMtMTFlMi05ZGYzLTNjZDkyYmZmMjAxNg--;_ylg=X3oDMTFpNzk0NjhtBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3

Looks like the Obama administration may have to respond to a petition seeking the green light for Texas to secede from the United States—one of 20 such requests filed on the official White House website since Election Day.

At the time of the writing of this post, the Texas secession petition had garnered 25,318 signatures—above the White House's self-imposed rules for requiring a reply.

(A "Recount the election!" petition filed Nov. 10 had 16,238 signatures. "Regulate Internet Pornography"? Not a big winner. It was filed Nov. 4 and had only 501 signatures.)

The White House may opt out of replying. Under its own rules, "To avoid the appearance of improper influence, the White House may decline to address certain procurement, law enforcement, adjudicatory, or similar matters properly within the jurisdiction of federal departments or agencies, federal courts, or state and local government in its response to a petition."

Other secession petitions include requests for Arkansas, South Carolina, Georgia, Missouri, Tennessee, Michigan, Colorado, Oregon, New Jersey, North Dakota, Montana, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, North Carolina, Alabama and New York. (Spoiler alert: No, the White House won't approve secession.)

Here's the text of the Texas petition:

    The U.S. continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government's neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the U.S. suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect its citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.


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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2012, 08:33:27 PM »
In a way I wish Maryland would pick this up, however succession needs ally's with adjoining territory. Maryland would be an island alone.

And frankly we don't want DC thinking they have return rights. ;-)
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2012, 09:37:23 AM »
All they have to do is respond...nothing else...any response will do.

Since these petitions are unofficial in that they have no bearing on the will of a states citizens save those who signed them, the response need only be.

  "We do not take any action on petitions pertaining to a state that are supported by such a low percentage of that state's population."

Might make us feel good to do it, and enjoy the thought of the administration seeing it...but they don't care and it won't accomplish much.
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2012, 05:36:42 PM »
As Solus has mentioned, a real feel good gesture.  More than anything else, it is a way of identifying malcontents.  Then perhaps a big of investigation, surveillance, and future psychiatric 'help'.

Just 'cause I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
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Re: W H I T E H O U S E - DOT - GOV - P E T I T I O N
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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2012, 05:56:22 PM »
84,000+ now

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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2012, 05:57:24 PM »
Go Texas

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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2012, 06:04:55 PM »
Sending a petition to the White house is a waste of time on a State issue.
The proper place to address the issue is in the State legislature.
It really should not take a rocket scientist to figure that out, especially since it's been done before.

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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2012, 06:26:45 PM »
Sending a petition to the White house is a waste of time on a State issue.
The proper place to address the issue is in the State legislature.
It really should not take a rocket scientist to figure that out, especially since it's been done before.
And gee, that worked out well.

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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2012, 06:35:28 PM »
To true I just wanted to be on the list.And so did 84,000+ others.

 

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