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Comprehensive .38 / .357 Bullet Expansion Tests
« on: April 13, 2017, 06:33:39 AM »
Lot's of brands and barrel lengths. With some surprising results.

http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/revolver-ballistics-test/
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Re: Comprehensive .38 / .357 Bullet Expansion Tests
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2017, 02:55:52 PM »
Lucky Gunner has a lot of good info on their website.
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Re: Comprehensive .38 / .357 Bullet Expansion Tests
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2017, 03:03:52 PM »
32 inches of penetration from the Speer 158 gr Gold Dot .357 Magnum load could cause serious issues with over-penetration.
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Re: Comprehensive .38 / .357 Bullet Expansion Tests
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2017, 04:36:22 PM »
I do know that I'm done buying Speer Short barrel for my snubby and staying with Hornady 110gr FTX Critical Defense in +p...

Amazing results in penetration, MV and consistent bullet expansion!
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Re: Comprehensive .38 / .357 Bullet Expansion Tests
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2017, 04:48:37 PM »
Quote from: Timothy on April 13, 2017, 04:36:22 PM
I do know that I'm done buying Speer Short barrel for my snubby and staying with Hornady 110gr FTX Critical Defense in +p...

Amazing results in penetration, MV and consistent bullet expansion!

I may try the 110 FTX standard velocity version in my Colt Agent (not rated for +P). They made the best showing for standard rounds.
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Re: Comprehensive .38 / .357 Bullet Expansion Tests
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Re: Comprehensive .38 / .357 Bullet Expansion Tests
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2017, 05:03:52 PM »
It's really a very comprehensive study.  The pics of bullets and expansion are phenomenal. 

Mr LCR is rated for .38+p so I'm digging my Hornady out o the ammo closet..
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Re: Comprehensive .38 / .357 Bullet Expansion Tests
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2017, 07:04:03 PM »
Quote from: jumbofrank on April 13, 2017, 03:03:52 PM
32 inches of penetration from the Speer 158 gr Gold Dot .357 Magnum load could cause serious issues with over-penetration.

None of the heavyweight Gold Dots seemed to expand that well. At least in .38 / .357.
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Re: Comprehensive .38 / .357 Bullet Expansion Tests
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2017, 11:35:58 PM »
Quote from: billt on April 13, 2017, 07:04:03 PM
None of the heavyweight Gold Dots seemed to expand that well. At least in .38 / .357.

I thought the whole idea behind Gold Dots was that they were supposed to have quick reliable expansion but the results show otherwise. Maybe I misunderstood but that's what I thought.
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Re: Comprehensive .38 / .357 Bullet Expansion Tests
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2017, 07:42:48 AM »
Quote from: jumbofrank on April 13, 2017, 11:35:58 PM
I thought the whole idea behind Gold Dots was that they were supposed to have quick reliable expansion but the results show otherwise. Maybe I misunderstood but that's what I thought.

The 135 Gr. Gold Dots performed all but perfectly in the 2" and 4" .357's. It's the heavier 158 grains that don't expand. And over penetrate as a result. I'm wondering if the nose cavity is getting packed up with flannel, or whatever cloth they're using? And as a result they're working like FMJ's.
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Re: Comprehensive .38 / .357 Bullet Expansion Tests
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2017, 07:44:50 AM »
The Remington 125 Gr. Semi Jacketed Hollow Point's are still one of the best in a 2", .357.
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