Help seeker_two pick a .22....

[beagleman]

I love my dad's single six Ruger. It can be a magnum or the regular cal. and it fits nice in my hands and in my dad's. Its a lot of fun at the range.

[Timothy]

You guys are NOT helping me here!  Now ya got me drooling over a Single Six, the new Redhawk and I'm already waiting on my SP101.....

Haz, you got my blood boiling for my old pal Ruger....stop, cease and desist, no more.....

Can't.......help........myself........must........have............more, more, more, more........!!!

No.......more........money.......need some money.......!!!......work two jobs.........work three jobs.........sell something......!!!


slobber, slobber, slobber, slobber.....drool, drool, drool.......

[MAUSERMAN]

Ruger MKIII and 10/22 make for a perfect pair. I also recommend GSG 5 it hell a fun.

[Badgersmilk]

+1 on the Mark III & 10/22!!!  I've had my Mark III 2 years and out to 50 yards can take squirrel regularly and easily.  Easily one of the funnest firearms I own.  Dont be surprised if it takes a while to put it back together after you take it apart the first time or two...  TRICKY!  "Point it at the moon, put in the clip, pull the trigger, pop the lever in place, bark at the moon, and tap your heels together 3 times while saying the Lords prayer!"  (IT'S NOT EASY!)  Otherwise an EXCELLENT firearm!

I'd look at the S&W .22 for a revolver (they even hold 10 rounds!).  NOT a Ruger revolver if your a wheel gun man and want a .22!  Smith makes great .22 revolvers with as nice a match grade trigger as you'll feel on any gun in your whole life!  The Ruger .22 revolvers, while pretty, & well assembled were aparently scaled to fit a 5 year olds hands.  Poor triggers, and in the case of the single six, the chambers and barrels are NOT ideal for either .22 win mag., OR .22LR..  Few people know this, but the cases, & bullets are actually slightly bigger diameter for .22 win mag., and Ruger comprimised between them on all the single six's.  None of the Ruger .22 revolvers are known for superior accuracy (still acceptable to some, you likely wont be impressed though).  The Smith on the other hand IS known for astounding accuracy!  As is the Mark III, but either one is limited to .22LR only.  No shooting the .22 Win. mag stuff.

I have a 6 7/8" barrel on my Mark III Hunter and yes, its muzzle heavy, distractingly so if you plan on carrying it in the field at all.  They now offer the Hunter model in a shorter barrel that I REALLY wish were availble when I made my purchase!

Browning Buckmarks are known for "nearly as good", or sometimes "as good" as accuracy to the Mark III.  They are easier to reasemble after cleaning.  Their looks are something from an old episode of "SHAFT" in my opinion though...  Just my opinion!  But distracting enough I hate even picking one up (Many even have a gold plated trigger )

Pick up and handle the Smith revolvers.  You will buy one!  Superior firearm your grandchildren, and their grandchildren will be proud to own.  Quality second to none!  But then, the Mark III has 10 round magazines you can change quickly!  Fun shooter!  And well made in its own right.  VERY few squirrels and rabbits have lived to tell the tale of me missing!

Decisions, decisions... 

As far as rifles go...  There is no substitue for the 10/22. 

[Badgersmilk]

Smith & Wesson 617

4" barrel, 10 shot...  NICE!  Wish I had one.  The Ruger Mark III "Hunter" models sell for about $500 around here, a 617 will go for about 50 more than that.  BOTH WORTH IT!!!



My Squirrel Season "Action Pack"

As it came out of the box (with a 3lb trigger) except Hogue thumb rest grip.  No need to change anything else IMO.

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[Hazcat]

Badger,

There are SEPARATE cylinders for the 22lr and the 22 mag for the Single Six, you do NOT use same cylinder for both.

[Badgersmilk]

A few of the compromises with the single six are the internal diameter of the barrel is larger than it will be in any .22lr to allow for the larger .22wmr rounds to be used.  Even if you dont get the one that comes with the .22wmr cylinder (not all do) the same barrel will be used in case you buy this later and try to shoot it that way.  The .22LR shells are much shorter than the magnum shells.  The cylinders must be made the same over all length allowing them both to fit the same frame.  This requires an extremely long "jump" for the bullet from the much shorter .22lr shell to make before it ever contacts threads in the barrel at all.  In itself a serious problem when accuracy is concerned, everybody knows the benefits of a "match chamber".  Ideally, (for accuracy) the bullet is touching the threads of the barrel, or even into the threads a few thousandths as the round is chambered.  This longer gap that the bullet must "jump" in the case of the Single Six is big enough that Engineers saw problems with bullets rolling, or tumbleing minute angles before ever getting into the barrel.  They solved this by having a very long tappered throat in the barrel of these revolvers, and again opening up barrel inside diameters, and cutting shallow theads to allow for bullets to travel through the gun in "a bit of a twist", and not jam, or blow up.  With this longer throat thats now required, what you find is that some of the bullets that werent rotated at an angle before contact, will be caused to roll over & deform upon contact with the throat...  Still not having ever even got to the threads yet.

I think Single Six's are a brilliant concept (being able to shoot both calibers from one gun).  To many comprimises for me.  Just my personal taste though.  

They ARE pretty!

The Single Six is easily small enough for youngsters hands.   The Smith, and Mark III are full size frames.
Keep in mind that at least in this state its illegal to hunt with a handgun unless your over 18.  So check out your local laws before you get one for your kid!

[Timothy]

S&W revolvers in .22lr are rediculously expensive.  For a backyard plinker, 800 bucks is just way too much.

I had a High Standard match gun years ago for bullseye competition and had maybe 400 bucks in it.  It would shoot one ragged hole at 25 yards, all day, every day...might try and find another.

[Badgersmilk]

"Street price" for a 617 around here is around $550.  There are MUCH cheaper options though.  You could even look for a Ruger Mark II.  I see a lot of them in used gun cases, and their GREAT buys!  Personally I think its a better firearm than the Mark III with all its politically correctness added features.

[Timothy]

Seems pretty low for a revolver that's MSRP is $916.00...

My FFL would probably go 750, not much less....not worth it for a plinker....

I can get a Mark III 22/45 for 275...300 tops or just borrow that POS Walther that my kid uses if it can stay together for more than ten rounds...   It holds "minute of trash can lid" at 20 feet.....(borrowed that line.. )