GLOCK COPIES M&P

[1911 Junkie]

Even the glock fanboys have thier doubts about "perfection".  

[ericire12]

Here's a crazy thought.  If they have interchangeable back straps, why not interchangeable front straps?  That way you could choose to have finger grooves, or not.  Huh?  Huh?  Genius, right?

That is a great idea...... especially since so many are love it or hate it about the Glock finger groves..... some manufacturer is doing it with AR grips.

[MAUSERMAN]

I like the idea that glock isnt set in there ways. Change is good and now a great gun is even greater, but did glock really copy the M&P or did everyone else copy them and add there own touches. R&D costs are sometimes staggering, so let someone else do it and then add to it. M&P KAHR XD's hell anything polymer is a bootleg of the Glock.

[ericire12]

I like the idea that glock isnt set in there ways...... ANYMORE. Change is good and now a great gun is even greater, but did glock really copy the M&P or did everyone else copy them and add there own touches. R&D costs are sometimes staggering, so let someone else do it and then add to it. M&P KAHR XD's hell anything polymer is a bootleg of the Glock.

[Big Frank]

H&K made a polymer framed pistol before Glock pistols existed. Does that makes Glock a copycat?

[Sponsor]

[tombogan03884]

 Yes 
Colt made steel revolvers before any one else, Does that make S&W a copy cat ? 

[twyacht]

Yes 
Colt made steel revolvers before any one else, Does that make S&W a copy cat ? 

YES, and Dirty Harry approves!!!

[MikeO]

IIRC, the Walther P99 had the adjustable backstrap/grips first?

[ericire12]

UPDATE: Got the chance to fondle one over the weekend.

I saw a .40 caliber one in Charleston SC at ATP Gun shop for $609 -- its important to note that they are a pricey store, and all their other Glocks sell for $550-$600

*The new grip texture is great. Its not too much like the RTF was, but it really adds a great deal of "grippyness" to it.
*The backstraps are pretty slick. Not sure which one they had installed, but it had a much more user friendly grip angle. It is also very well done. If you did not know it was interchangable, then you would not be able to tell. It looks like the frame and backstrap are all one piece.
*The new frame also feels thinner. Not single stack thin, but it is a lot less "Blocky"
*I did not care for the new mag release. It is larger, but it is also flatter and would take some getting used to. Its like you really have to search for it and find it. I could see how it would be a problem if going back and forth between it and other guns.... or earlier model glocks.

I think there is some real value added for consumers with these new models. As long as they sell at a reasonable price point, and there are no issues with the internal changes I think these will do very well.

[Ping]

I really liked the Glock 22 Generation 4 and the way it felt and broke down. I like the newer recoil spring as it is similar to the one in my Glock 30 .45 ACP. Recoil is more manageable than my last Glock 22 RFT2. I am delighted that they were considerate of the people with medium to larger hands and changed the texture of the grip. The new magazine release is really nice.

I owned a Smith and Wesson M&P. Very well built gun. Just hated when I was wearing it concealed and moving one way or another and the magazine released. Very embarrassing in public to be honest. The M&P fired well and I enjoyed the weight of it and the ability to absorb recoil. Both the Smith and Wesson and Glock are fantastic weapons, but I prefer the Glock... I have owned several Smith and Wesson firearms but have purchased 7 Glocks. Glocks have never failed me at the range or out in the community and I know what to expect from them. As for the "Perfection" label? They are close enough for me to continue to carry them without hesitation. Nothing is perfect!!! But like I said, Glock is darn close.